Posts Tagged ‘Mormon’

Magical Blessings

Posted by on February 10th, 2009 Comments (3,134)

While we mainly focus on news stories here at Topic Agnostic, occasionally a blog post will catch out attention.

A self-described “Recovering Mormon” wrote a story that she swears is true, relayed to her from her homosexual friend. This friend recently had a conversation with a former female high school acquaintance. She is in her thirties and unmarried, which carries somewhat of a stigma in the Mormon culture since marriage is so heavily emphasis.

It seems that this female friend, called “Molly”, had been having dreams about this former friend “Tommy”, and that she had talked with her bishop about these dreams. Mormons believe in modern day, personal revelation, and sometime a dream can be taken to be as such. The bishop encouraged her to talk to Tommy about it.

The ensuing phone call is quite interesting, and you can check out the blog for full details. Tommy tells her that he is gay and in a happy relationship, and that’s when the cognitive dissodence kicks in. After hearing this new information about who she thought was her eternal companion being gay, she says this…

I really think we are meant to be. In my Patriarchal Blessing it says that I met my eternal companion in the pre-existence and that if he doesn’t make the right choices I will be alone. Are you willing to make the right choices, Tommy? Are you willing to use the Atonement? Are you willing to erase your sin so that we can be together? Because… I’d be willing to help you work through it.

For the uninitiated, a Patriarchal blessing is kind of like a custom tarot card reading. The Patriarch for the area, usually an elderly male, puts his hands on the persons head and gives a blessing, which is supposed to be a revelation from God that the person receiving it can and should guide their life by. It is looked at as authoritative and very sacred, so it has to be right! God has decreed it!

Unfortunately for Molly, this Blessing is no more authoritative than any other cold or warm reading done by a pretend physic “talking to the dead”. While the participants in these blessing are no doubt sincere, the sincerity doesn’t make up for the true nature of it; a nice fuzzy message made up by the person giving it.

I had personally given many blessing during my time in the church, and I was sincere in everyone of them. Sometimes I felt like it was coming directly from God, sometimes not. The mind is a mysterious machine and if we really want something to be true, it can manifest that for us; that has been shown over and over.

So this nice lady, Molly, is guiding her life and basing her happiness (in this instance anyways) on a dream and on a blessing; neither of which can be shown to be the product of any supernatural being giving messages to his children. It is a product of our own minds, which can be influenced by our wants and desires.

How much better would it be for her, instead of finding someone that fits this preconceived notion of a mate set out in a blessing, that she would be open to all possibilities when looking for a suitable mate. How much happier would she be.

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Gay People at BYU?! What?!

Posted by on December 10th, 2008 Comments (4,662)

A student put together an art exhibit that showed pictures of gay students at Brigham Young University, along side one of their supporters. Which is the homosexual is not identified. BYU, which is owned by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) decided that this display should be shut down, and that’s what happened.

Now, this isn’t a surprise. The dogma of the LDS Church is that homosexuality is a grave sexual sin,  and sexual sin is next only to murder (yes, worse than child abuse, fraud, theft, and any number of other ethical violations) and that it should be rejected outright. The church has a history of repressing their members that have expressed privately and/or publicly their same-sex attraction, and in fact BYU used to try “aversion” therapy on homosexuals that included shock thearapy and heterosexual pornography.

So, it is not much of a surprise that even a particularly benign display such as this would be censored by the school.

As of today, the display is back up, after a claim by the school of a “misunderstanding”. This is the way that the BYU and the Church work; they will do whatever they want and expect you to keep quiet.

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Mormons, no strangers to weird marriages, should lose their tax-exempt status for their help defeating gay marriage

Posted by on November 6th, 2008 Comments (4,264)

Over $75 million was spent in California on Proposition 8, the quest to outlaw gay marriage. The Latter Day Saints are said to be responsible for a good several million of that. Gay people really bug the Mormons.

The search-engine-friendily named blog “Revoke LDS Church 501(c)(3) Status” would like to point out that in order to deserve tax exempt status, a religious organization must ensure

no substantial part of (its) activities …is carrying on propaganda, or otherwise attempting, to influence legislation…

This former Mormon’s reasons for providing a host of handy suggestions and links for how to let the IRS know tax-free time must end for the LDS include this most reasonable reflection:

I created this blog because I believe that the members of the Church are some of the most loving people I have ever known in my life, and that they are not well served by the recent decision of Church leaders to exhort members to donate of their “time and means” (i.e. money) to Proposition 8. Reading a letter with this exhortation in every church in California crossed a line — not only because of its political nature, but also because Joseph Smith, the Church’s founder, believed “in being subject to … magistrates” and in “obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.” Moreover, the Church struggled to practice marriage as it chose, free from government interference, for many of its early years. Has it forgotten its history?

The Stop All Monsters blog has even more keen ideas for how to exercise your views on the separation of church and state, including a boycott on a number of Mormon-owned Mariott hotels in California.

UPDATE: Boycotts continue to roll in. The Sundance Film Festival is next on the list.

Tags: , , , Category: Mormonism, Politics & Law, Seperation of Church & State

And on the 7th day…

Posted by on August 24th, 2008 Comments (9,705)

Well, my godless friends, it’s the Lord’s Day, and in the interest of getting my lawn mowed before sundown, here’s a roundup of some irreligious stuff I came across this week that likely all deserve their own individual posts, but ain’t getting ‘em.

Tyson Koska over at Truth is a Woman is conducting a very brief poll on religious/not-so-religious self identification. He’s got well over 400 respondents so far, and would like to hit 1000. For your edification, the interim results – why not go give your two cents?

Also dig: a multi-denominatinonal “Bookshelf for the Religiously Confused“, one of the more offensive t-shirts I’ve ever seen, and an shining example of pro-gay-marriage Mormons taking their opposition to the Church’s opposition to the internet.

Vote in a poll on MSNBC – should God come off the American dollar bill? – and discuss on their Newsvine forum. Marvel at the reasonableness of a California court ruling that regardless of their religious beliefs, doctors can’t discriminate against gays and lesbians (huh?). Note that Tiger Woods can walk on water.

Roll your eyes that a prominent Shroud of Turin ‘expert’ has won the support of Oxford University in carrying out new carbon dating tests on the wretched piece of cloth [I wonder what Dr. Dawkins has to say about his employer cooperating with such investigation?]; consider yourself lucky that the Pew Forum reports a slim margin of people prefer religious institutions to keep their noses out of politics; be proud of one school teacher in Jacksonville as he introduces evolution in the classroom as a result of a Florida Department of Education mandate to teach real science; cheer the Saudi women who may one day soon be able to drive; and peruse early reviews of Religulous, which sound pretty good.


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Breaking up with God: Resources for leaving organized religion

Posted by on August 22nd, 2008 Comments (801)

You can profess your atheism all you want, but if you were baptized, confirmed, christened, or otherwise formally admitted into an organized religion, chances are your name appears in a register somewhere announcing it to God and the world. Possibly legally, as in the case of census data and the persistently-rumoured distorted membership claims of the Catholic church.

A growing number of adults, once subjects of ‘paedobaptism’, are as a conclusive step in their atheism seeking to officially remove their names from any such lists. It’s tougher than you might think. The National Secular Society of the UK offers a general-purpose debaptism certificate you can download and display proudly in your home or office, but folks in the Catholic church need to supply an actus defectionus to the parish priest where their baptism took place. Confirmation stats are considered preferable to baptism stats, but if you want to deplete the official toll by 1, you ought to get your name removed from any register.

This only renounces your membership, however…no church will admit to removing the actual baptism. It’s an historical fact, like graduating high school, and leaves ‘an indelible mark on the soul’, according to the Catholic church. You’re an apostate now, buddy, and you got some ‘splaining to do when you reach the pearly gates.

The Italian Union of Rationalists and Agnostics (how cool does that sound?) have supplied over 30 000 would-be defectors with the actus download, though many require a face-to-face visit with a priest accompanying their letter of Christly insultations.Exiting the Mormon church may be especially difficult – no one’s explicitly saying so, but there’s an awful lot of instructions available for how to do it.

Does it matter? Politically, yes, if you don’t want to be contribute to religious numbers somehow in your federal census data. Spiritually, a nice ritual debaptism might be refreshing. Send a clear message to God: we’re no longer dating, I’m deleting you from my friends list, and I don’t want you texting me.

Tags: , , , , , Category: Atheism & Agnosticism, Catholicism, Mormonism, Politics & Law, Statistics

Mormon Church to acquire Facebook?

Posted by on August 20th, 2008 Comments (6,464)

Wild speculation? Illuminati machinations of the highest social order? Mormons know my favourite song and what I looked like in grade 11?

Blogger Brady Brim-DeForest reports a possibly-insane-but-certainly-interesting rumour that the LDS has made a bid, likely greater than 5 billion bucks, to purchase Facebook. Their interest stems from their geneaology hobby – the Mormons have the largest genealogical database in the US.

The Church PR dept sent Brady a one-liner to the effect of “This rumor has no foundation whatsoever,”…and 2 hours later the LDS website was down! Coincidence…or Anonymous attack?

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First-ever dog cloner might also be Mormon missionary sex captor. Wtf?

Posted by on August 12th, 2008 Comments (2,194)

Christ, I don’t even know where to start. Bernann McKinney, eccentric British lady, gets attacked by dogs 11 years ago. Her pit bull, Booger, saves her life. Incredibly grateful, Bernann beseeches the universe to somehow preserve her valiant pooch, and a generous South Korean biotech firm takes heed and clones her dog. Five puppies are born unto Bernann a couple weeks ago, and in her excitement she somehow goes on Today to show them off. Booger was, of course, “sent by God to save her life”.

Enter the rest of the world, who somehow remember that 30 years ago a 30-years-younger blonde, heavy eyed young immigrant to England named Joyce McKinney (a former Miss Wyoming!) ABDUCTED HER MORMON MISSIONARY BOYFRIEND for 3 days, tied him up, and sexually assaulted the crap out of him. She fled trial and was never seen again; the Mormon missionary’s fate is unknown, at least to me. “She later became the subject of a pulpy book, “Joyce McKinney and the Manacled Mormon,” which included 16 pages of semi-nude modeling she had done for a host of mainly bondage-themed magazines.”

This just goes to show you, if you assail, bond and assault a missionary, he will pray and pray and pray until some stupid pet trick exposes you unto the masses for your eventual and well-deserved stoning. Wtf are the odds, Joyce?

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5 fundie Mormons indicted, turn selves in

Posted by on July 29th, 2008 Comments (2,753)

I bet when they sent all those ladies and their unibrows home a few months ago, you thought the state had screwed up and their was no case against the gentlemen of the FLDS. I bet you thought that because it kind of sounded that way: first the girls weren’t underage, then they weren’t pregnant, then they weren’t even girls but golden plates (what?).

The good people in law enforcement have been busy beavers while we were tsking, though, and 5 indictments came through last week. The 4 fundies in question (Warren Jeffs is already in jail) turned themselves in peacefully yesterday, ready to “step upand answer the charges, to show the judicial system that we’re not guilty of what they’ve accused us of.”

Based on the unibrows and the aprons and all that, I’m worried these hillbillies are in for a bit of a rude awakening where felony sexual assault of a child is concerned. I gotta applaud the state of Texas for their position that whether God (or your wiener) told you to sleep with children or not, that’s not going to fly in the society in which Texans choose to live.


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Mormons slam calendar’s missionary position

Posted by on July 10th, 2008 Comments (1,537)

TMZ is reporting that the creator of the steamy Men on a Mission calendar has been served with a letter by his church leader threatening disfellowship or excommunication for “conduct unbecoming a member.”
I guess having bare chested hunks is too much for the geritatics running the LDS Church to handle.

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Mormons interfering in government…again

Posted by on June 21st, 2008 Comments (3,160)

For several years California has seen much debate over the issue of same-sex marriage. In 2000 it was banned and in 2008 the California Supreme Court reversed this ruling. Now it will be voted upon this November.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is urging its members to donate their means and time to vote against same-sex marriage.

Here’s my question; isn’t church and state supposed to be separate in North America? If so, then why is it that a church is encouraging its members to support certain legislation?

For centuries churches have imposed their morals onto other people that weren’t part of their faith through government legislation, and it continues to do this day.

Here is the full text of the announcement from the Church.

Tags: , Category: Culture, Intolerance, Mormonism, Politics & Law, Seperation of Church & State

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